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May 31, 2014 at 11:29 am #3290
James you have a done good job creating the unrelenting despair of the world that you’ve created.
I like the way that you summarize what the character as managed to grok about the language as “shit and move.” Good telescoping.
However, its virtue is a bit of its problem, for me, it is so unrelenting, so black, I soon stop caring–sort of like those friends I grow tired of who whine too much. Early on, we have to see at least a glimpse of what he really wants, of what might change his condition. He may fail, ultimately, but if we don’t see any of that, we won’t root for him.
Michael
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June 3, 2014 at 12:14 am #3518
Yes. We have to be able to identify with the character and his feelings. Definitely things I need to keep in mind moving forward with this story. Thanks.
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May 31, 2014 at 4:27 pm #3341
Although this is not my preference for reading material, you did a good job describing all of the details. I, like Michael, am wondering where you are going. Maybe this is too brief of a word count to reach that conclusion.
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June 3, 2014 at 12:15 am #3519
I’d say I’d wrap it up in a couple hundred pages, but I’ve a luck of writing 3 to 4 times as much as I plan.
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June 2, 2014 at 11:23 am #3470
James,
As usual, you’ve done a really awesome job of world building. I wondered why your character was in that predicament, and that made for some compelling reading.
However, I felt like a lot of my questions were left unanswered. Why is he there? What has he done? Is he alive, or is this some kind of after-life hell?
He is clearly a prisoner of conscience, mentally flayed by his sense of having betrayed dear Annabel. Her emerald eyes are the only colour in this whole black-and-white world. Is he in this hell, because of this betrayal? It felt like that might be a partial explanation, but I couldn’t help thinking, there must be more to it, than that? How did he get there? Who put him there?
Will you be expanding on this piece? I’d love to make more sense of this story.
Thanks again, for sharing.
Katie
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June 3, 2014 at 12:11 am #3517
Wow, Katie! You sound excited to read more, and I love how you pick the apple from before my eye! I do believe the green is the only color in the scene. You’ve got a great eye.
Yes, there will be more, much more. This is the absolute first writing for another novel spinning in my head.
Thanks for reading, thanks for commenting.
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June 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm #3656
I love this, even as a stand alone piece, though I hope it is part of something bigger, and I want to read more!
You’ve really captured the despair and remorse of your character. I hope it is not too late for him to act on the lessons he has learnt!
there were a couple of sentences that I didn’t quite get, for example – ” If one looks into their eyes, he’ll know fortune if they rip every ounce of skin from his body with their cruel whips. “. You might want to think about re-wording it to make it a little clearer – is the ‘he’ the slave or the master, and what do you mean by ‘they will know fortune’ if they rip the skin etc, I just didn’t quite get that.
But over all I LOVE the feel of it, your descriptions are awesome!
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June 7, 2014 at 11:00 am #3829
Thanks for the comments, Kate. It is so wonderful to have you in the group. I’d love to have you join the Skywriters group after the course is over. It is a group I started for writers to meet together on audio Skype calls. I started the group back in November with 4 people, now there are 30 members.
Of course, my secret motivation is so I can help drive you to keep writing on your amazing story. It looks like we both love to explore the darker side of human nature in fantasy worlds. Perhaps that is why I’ve always felt drawn and captivated by your writing, and likewise your comments are heartfelt because they display a unique level of understanding.
I’m excited to write more on this story because I have such great support. I didn’t know how well-received it would be because I kind of just winged it between midnight and 3 AM in the morning. Yeah, it was one of THOSE stories. Some of the wordings I’ve used will definitely need cleaned up.
Thanks for stopping by and reading Kate. Have a good weekend!
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June 7, 2014 at 4:52 pm #3847
Thanks James, I would love to join Skywriters, if I am able to be free when you guys meet. I work on sundays, but i guess it depends what time you meet, since we are in different time zone.
Thanks for all your encouraging words, you are making me feel like maybe I can really do this!
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June 7, 2014 at 6:32 pm #3862
We have two meetings so far, one at 2 PM on Saturday and another at 8PM on Sunday. That’s central time. Where are you from again? Do you live in the US or the UK, I can’t remember.
We have people all over the world and we are still trying to find a good time to add another meeting.
If you have questions, just let me know.
I know you can do it!
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June 9, 2014 at 4:43 am #3912
I live in the UK. I’m a nurse and I work most weekends, so maybe it wouldn’t work for me. I realise weekends are usually good for most people. If you ever set one up in the week, let me know!
And thank you!
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June 6, 2014 at 1:54 am #3767
Hello James. My name is James. I just took a break from writing and wanted to pop over and try to read a couple more stories and I thought, well we have the same first name, let’s see what else we may have in common.
First, am I correct in assuming that this is the beginning of a much larger story? Brian R. and I know I read a couple of others as well, but now I can’t remember who. It seems many are also testing out some of their ideas for novels they are writing.
People are correct in that you are a tight writer and very good world builder. I can see the cell in my mind and picture the captors. Your protagonist is in a world of hurt, and I can feel it. The captors and big and ugly and I can see them and see why others fear them.
Because I am under the assumption this is just the beginning of a larger story yet to unfold, I don’t really care how it doesn’t resolve very well, but I would suggest that maybe you might try to give the reader a reason to want to identify more with the main character. Again – I am sure more is coming, but perhaps some clarification early on about how he ended up in the cell. Give the reader a reason to care – I guess is what I am saying. I think that would help boost this a bit, because while I loved your descriptive voice – I spent more time after thinking I really don’t know very much still about the main character other than he is in a cell and life there sucks.
I really do think you write well and I will keep checking back to see how this goes.
From one James to another – it is nice to meet you
James Schmidt (J.L.S.)
James Lee Schmidt
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June 7, 2014 at 10:45 am #3828
Hello James Schmidt. Quite interesting because last time I was in the course there was another writer called James Swan in the group. We should get together sometime, and have a conversation all about James.
Great feedback. I threw this out there as a rough draft. I really was intent on developing more of the world and highlighting his dilemma. He will be a challenging character to express because he thinks he is a terrible person, but I have to, on the other hand, show the readers that although he may used to be, he is quite different now. I suppose, for my attempt at opening this new novel, I didn’t feel quite ready to tackle that beast, but I’m working on ideas of how quickly I could bring that alive in the very next scene.
I can’t help but feel that the beginning of this book will progressively reveal the character and his history.
Thanks for your comments, James.
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June 9, 2014 at 3:14 pm #3924
Hey James!
I like this, and for some reason it struck chords with me because of “In the Middle”. Even though the worlds are different, the question’s still there: Where am I?
Katie mentioned that Annabelle’s eyes were the only color mentioned in this world, but that’s not true. You also mentioned the emerald meadows of his prior world. So, your only color mentioned is, quite specifically, emerald, and it describes eyes and grass. So minor. And a few phrases where phrases could be reversed to strengthen the passage (passive verb kind of stuff).
I felt drawn to this piece because I could understand it without needing to think like a dwarf. Felt more accessible to a Fantasy-newbie such as myself, I guess.
Loved the bit about the words he’d managed to decipher. It’s almost funny, and that glimpse of humor in a passage like this gives the reader a chance to breathe for half a second.
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