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June 12, 2014 at 1:28 am #4032
Brian – First, I just have to let you know that we are in another thunderstorm as I write this. Why is it that every time I read your stories – there are storm clouds present. Maybe it’s a sign of sorts, I don’t know, but we have enough rain now to last for a while – thanks, I guess.
I first want to start by saying that – in your class introduction you talked about writing a novel where each chapter could stand on its own. I think with just a tweak here or there this story can do that. It’s like a scene from a screenplay. Obviously I would like to have more background, but if this is just a part of a bigger work – then I kind of just go with what is here.
I think towards the back half it really starts going – As a reader, I really start to wonder along with Florin about why the data paints a totally different picture than what it should. It gets rolling and its engaging.
My suggestions:
First – when I read the Secretariat – I immediately thought of the horse. I went online to make sure that I didn’t misunderstand the name – and unless Google or Bing has something different – That’s the first thing they come up with as well. You might consider changing this title – it gets a little confusing.
There are a couple of paragraphs that I think would be better as one paragraph than two.
Example:
Florin and Jonah had once been colleagues at the IPCC. Their paths diverged when Florin chose bureaucracy over science. The work he did now no longer resembled science. More like accounting or business management. Florin worked in boardrooms and offices and high level meetings with politicians and business people to influence and set policy and allocate budgets.Jonah had no taste for that work. He preferred to work in the field where he got wet from the water he measured and could feel the arctic wind that he analyzed bite at his cheeks. He could never sit at a desk all day pushing numbers from here to there, nor could he stand at a podium spewing sound bytes for the politicians to repeat on the news nets.
I think if you were to combine these two paragraphs it would reader better as one strong one.
However, when the actual guts of the meeting start – then I think things really get going. I got into it then – I mean what would cause perfectly functioning equipment to send back perfectly contrary data? That’s really good. I builds the tension quite well.
One last suggestion – The conversation with Anna – Perhaps he might still have the discussion with Florin more on his mind (you know, distracted like) – Then she might query him as to some of the details and empathize with his concern – because that meeting was serious business. Then, at the end of the conversation have her draw him back from his problems of the world and focused more on having a romantic evening. I would think that might be more natural – I mean she doesn’t even ask him about the details, unless he can’t discuss that with her for some reason – if that’s the case then the reader should probably know that as well.
Again – These are merely suggestions. I eagerly await when more of the parts start to be revealed. Keep going – I’m rooting for you.
James Schmidt (J.L.S.)
James Lee Schmidt
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June 12, 2014 at 7:05 am #4041
Hey James,
As always, your suggestions are appreciated greatly. I finally read your intro last night and realized just how similar our paths are. You’re an IT consultant / writer and I’m an IT Professional / writer as well. The internet’s ability to connect people never ceases to amaze me. As for the thunderstorms – sounds like a sci fi story prompt to me š
I should give more context to what I’m trying to accomplish with my posts. I have most major plot points for my novel series idea down in my notes. In a nutshell, there are aliens on earth and they have been here for a while. The earth is being prepared for an invasion. The aliens are terraforming the planet and manipulating world events ahead of the invasion. My hero will be central to uncovering and disrupting the alien plans to invade. That’s the first book I think. And therein lies the problem…
I haven’t settled on the main character yet. I have Graham who you met in the first scene I wrote for exercise 1 and now Jonah. These 2 characters are more developed than a third I have in mind, Marshall, who is not developed at all, but I believe he is in the military. So I think I have a good idea, but I’m not sure who the main character is yet and I’m playing with a few points of view to figure it all out the details.
I take your point on Secretariat. It is an actual high level position at the IPCC (I googled IPPC and then read about the organization a little and that position jumped out at me). I could easily substitute “board member” or some other similar title to convey the same importance of the position and eliminate any confusion for the reader. Thank you for pointing that out.
I wanted this scene to have a rapid pace so I tried shorter paragraphs and sentences. Its interesting that you suggest to collapse the paragraphs you mentioned. That’s how it was originally. I second guessed myself and separated the two. I should just follow my instincts.
The Anna part – I was trying to bracket the scene starting with Jonah’s tension about her being upset with him for being late again and then him actually speaking to her in the car at the end of the scene. But now that I think about it, that approach takes away from the Florin meeting. Maybe I should have had her call him in the hover car and Jonah thinking “cr*p, I forgot all about dinner with Anna.” And you’re right – it’s not natural to have such an important meeting for work and then not think about it at all when you’re talking to your wife about being late for dinner!
Thanks again for reading and your suggestions. I appreciate you taking an interest in my writing and value your opinion. You’ve been very helpful. I hope I can return the favor.
Regards,
Brian
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June 13, 2014 at 1:11 am #4072
Brian, it’s funny how many IT people I talk to daily (both men and women) that a have strong interest to write a novel, a indie comic, or a graphic novel of some kind. Most of those I work with know that I enjoy writing. I often get approached quietly (usually because they are uncertain about broaching the subject in public) asking how they could start writing something. I always try to be very encouraging because these people can come up with the most amazing story ideas. I always tell writers I know that if you get stuck coming up with story ideas, go ask someone in IT because often they have pretty off the wall suggestions. I think there are many creative IT people out there and I am convinced they are more common than we may be aware.
To the item of main character, I say don’t even worry about it if you aren’t sure. First write. Just write. Write what’s in your mind, or scribbled on notepads, or blurred on the back of napkins. The idea – That’s the important thing. It may not be the FINAL thing, but it’s the important thing. Authors like George R.R. Martin, or Terry Brooks, or one that you mentioned in your intro, Stephen King can tell great stories with no main character in particular. If fact, with King’s The Stand, or Martins Song of Fire and Ice, I just don’t know how those stories get told by using a single character. It’s tricky to have many different character arcs. Very tricky. but I say go for it. At the very worst you will find that one character moves to the forefront. It may not even be the one you expected. That has happened to me on occasion.
Write it as you feel it, then edit it as it becomes more clear. I think you have some really good scenes and a really good idea. You need to just keep churning out the pages.
James Schmidt (J.L.S.)
James Lee Schmidt
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June 12, 2014 at 2:55 pm #4054
Really interesting! I’m definitely intrigued by this novel’s concept. The characters felt fleshed-out, and I enjoyed the pacing very much!
I’d say the only thing that really needs a touch-up is punctuation. Two examples:
Well here goes he thought.
āThanks Ellenā.
That should read like this:
Well here goes, he thought.
āThanks, Ellen.ā
Then one more:
āBrilliant, beautiful, ⦠and smarter than you.ā
It either needs to be, Brilliant, beautiful, and smarter than you, or Brilliant, beautiful… and smarter than you.
Hope that helps! You’ve really got an interesting gem here, and I’m heroically resisting the urge to ask you for the answers. š
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June 12, 2014 at 9:23 pm #4061
Hi Ruthanne,
Thank you so much for taking the time to read and comment. Heroically resisting an urge to ask – I love that š
I appreciate you pointing out my punctuation errors. I’m forever abusing punctuation and am dependent on Microsoft and readers to help me.
I read your profile – aliens and elves wow! Never would have put those together. You’ve got me curious. I’m heading over to your site now.
Thanks again for your help.
Regards,
Brian
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June 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm #4151
Dear Brian,
You describe physical things excellently! Like the graphs changing and hovering. That is flawlesss, and I could see it as clear as watching a movie.
I really like your dialogue – it flows like speech and was easy for me to āhearā the characters talking.
When I read āFlorinās assistant shook Jonah from his momentary self-absorption.ā I saw the assistant physically shaking him. I realized after a second reading that was not the case.
This confused me a bit: āFlorin nodded and smiled graciously. He seemed slightly annoyed now.ā The 2 sentences contradict each other. Maybe show us that he is annoyed? Or not so gracious?
You might want to rearrange a bit here for clarity: From āJonah pushed the report from climate engineering from his handheld to Florinās desktop.ā to āJonah pushed the climate engineering report from his handheld to Florinās desktop.āThere are some places with periods outside the quotations, and punctuation errors, but those are easy enough to find & correct.
I donāt know what a ājab to the noseā is. I can guess. Have never heard that phrase. Not suggesting a change, just wanted you to know Iād never heard it.
I like how you’ve set up the two character at one time having been close then diverging – good tension. I feel some conflict a-brewin’ and I like it!
I think the scene with Florin is so well crafted. The tension is built up and I am itching to learn what is going on!
Thank you so much. I am a big sci-fi fan and look forward to reading more of your work.
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June 17, 2014 at 6:04 am #4193
Hi Margie,
No one has ever described anything I’ve written as flawless before. You made my week š Thank you so much for those kind words.
I also want to thank you for your comments and for picking up all my mistakes. It always amazes me how I miss so many obvious errors when I proof read my own work. It’s like I have binders on when reading my own work or maybe I don’t see words and sentences – just images and scenes. Any way, the comments, suggestions and proofreading from you and everyone else reading has been tremendously helpful. I am truly grateful. Thank you.
Best,
Brian
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June 21, 2014 at 4:00 pm #4296
Brian,
Your story scared me.
Write some more immediately.
Pay attention to punctuation. It actually does something.
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July 3, 2014 at 7:28 pm #4460
Thank you Judith. I hope it wasn’t my punctuation that scared you š
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