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  • #4390

    Angie Mroczka
    Participant

    I entered the publishing business with a pretty similar mentality. From experience, it isn’t sustainable.

    When publishing even an eBook, there are still many costs involved.

    You still have to pay for your editor. I also use a proofreader on my books. There is a cover that must be created, plus the cost of any materials and software to create it. Someone has to typeset / format the book to be published. Then there is the time to get it up on all of the distributor websites and your own (which also must be maintained).

    Beyond that is the actual launch of the book, promotion costs, and administrative fees of just being in business. On top of that, I end up with authors who believe that their book should sell itself, don’t lift a finger to promote it, and then wonder why they don’t make any money.

    Even though I do most of the work, I honestly don’t get paid the effort that I put in and hardly ever recoup my investment.

    This is why I am a HUGE proponent of self-publishing. Instead of me being the person assuming all of the risk, the authors are the ones who must make the decision on whether or not to help themselves.

    And since I love working with people who are motivated and want to be successful, it is a huge WIN for me ๐Ÿ™‚

    So if you are looking to help other authors get their work out there into the world and have them help you at the same time, I would recommend some sort of Indie co-op or a cartel.


    Thanks!
    Angie

    • #4455

      Stephanie Gonzaga
      Participant

      Hey Angie,

      Thanks for sharing your experiences as a publisher! I’ve a couple of questions.

      1. What exactly is the business model of an indie press/publishing house today? Do they approach the publisher and pay for all of the costs you mentioned above?

      2. What do you mean by “indie co-op” or a cartel?

      Reading my post again, I guess I wasn’t clear about the description of the platform in question. I want to act as a “publisher” for these authors and offer all of these services (e.g. editing, file conversion to the different ebook formats, design), but the only difference is taking out the factor of selection. In other words, I don’t want to butt in and say to Author A, “I like your work! Let’s publish you.” and to Author B, “No, your work does not fit our standards or style.”

      What do you think? I hope this clears things up. Thank you so much for responding!

    • #4465

      Angie Mroczka
      Participant

      If the author pays the costs to publish the book, they are considered a “vanity” publisher.

      Most of the houses that I have experience with assume these costs to produce the book, which is why they are selective. A book not making money means they have made a bad investment.

      By Indie Co-op, I mean a group of independent authors that work together and pool resources to help each other be successful. They may buy into this group or swap services, using any residual income to promote the works of the group.

      After reading your response to Joe, you are essentially setting yourself up as a vanity publisher. If that is what you want to do, groovy. It isn’t something that I would do, personally, but then again with my current setup, I’m not exactly rolling in the dough here either.


      Thanks!
      Angie

    • #4466

      Stephanie Gonzaga
      Participant

      I see. Thanks for all this information Angie! I appreciate you taking the time to explain.

      I’m wondering why the word “vanity” though. It has a rather negative connotation. Would that also mean that self-publishing is vanity publishing, since the author is paying for services in order to put together his/her book?

    • #4472

      Angie Mroczka
      Participant

      “Vanity” publishing does have a negative connotation, but from the description of what you’d like to offer (packages for people to publish their book through your publishing house) it is exactly what you are offering.

      Self-publishers differ in that they contract the services from various places or buy packages from service providers, but then they publish either under their own name or their own publishing house.

      If you just want to provide services to people who want to publish their books, you aren’t a publisher — you are a publishing specialist ๐Ÿ™‚


      Thanks!
      Angie

  • #4433

    Joe Bunting
    Keymaster

    It sounds like a blogging network. That’s essentially what WordPress/Tumblr/Medium/Blogger/etc is. You’re allowing everyone to publish. They just have to write it and hit post. Of course, all of these do some kind of curation. WordPress has “Freshly Pressed,” Medium has their newsletter, Tumblr has their social network. But the community does most of the curating, not the staff.

    In other words, you’re building a platform. And then letting other people publish on it. (Which is what Story Cartel is, btw.)

    I think if you can figure out how to do it without running into the problems Angie’s talking about, you should! You’ll essentially be the chief of your own Cartel, and there’s so much power in that, not to mention the joy of helping your fellow writers.

    BUT (and this is a big but) how will this distract you from your core focus of writing? And are you avoiding your writing by elevating the writing of others?

    I think you should do it, but only if you’ve fully looked at the costs and found them to be worth it. We creative types sometimes get grand visions but then get overwhelmed when it takes too much to maintain. This could potentially take a huge amount of maintenance.

    • #4456

      Stephanie Gonzaga
      Participant

      Hey Joe, good to hear from you!

      LOL like I said in my response to Angie, I guess I wasn’t clear that I want to set up an ebook publishing press for Filipino authors, but wanted to know if it’s possible to create one that doesn’t discriminate authors based on a set standards.

      In short, as publisher, I’d be happy to help the author publish his or her work, whether he/she has earned lots of awards or has only submitted his/her work for publishing for the very first time. Here are my services, these are the prices.

      What do you think?

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