The Ten Second Rule

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  • #3977

    Katie Hamer
    Participant

    James,

    I also enjoyed reading your recollections.

    This story interested me, as it’s so different from anything I’ve attempted to write. I love the camaraderie that you demonstrate between the mates, and how you show their different characters through their actions. I was caught up in the all-too believable rivalry.

    There was one place I noticed where I thought it went a bit telly: ‘The rest of us do the same, still laughing. Each of us retells our favorite part of what just happened.’

    This stood out for me, as generally you’re very good at showing not telling, and immersing us in the scene. Here’s a suggested alteration: The rest of us do the same. I nearly keel over with laughter as we each recall in turn our favourite part of the action.” I’m not sure that necessarily works better. Just a suggestion. Perhaps you can come up with a better one?

    Thanks for sharing!

    Katie ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #3991

      James Schmidt
      Participant

      Katie – As always thanks for taking the time and your feedback. It is always most appreciated.

      I appreciate your suggestion and first I have to confess – I found it very hard myself – to relate a personal story and not to fall into the act of telling. It’s really difficult because you get caught up in remembering the moment so vividly and you want to share everything you can remember. When I sent it to my friends the response was almost immediate. It was funny how there were little details that I had forgotten. My goal was to get people to be right there with you and it’s HAARRRDD!! not to get to telly in situations like that.

      I think after I have finished our next writing assignment – I may go back and try to clean this up a bit and add some of the things I had forgotten. It is obviously something very important to myself and my friends – and we should preserve it somehow.

      Thanks again for everything.

      James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


      James Lee Schmidt

  • #3994

    Brian Rella
    Participant

    Hey James,

    This was right up my alley. As I read, I was reminded of stories with my old buddies from high school (some of whom I play golf with as well). I felt nostalgia and recognition and found myself grinning throughout ๐Ÿ™‚

    When I have several characters in a short piece, I’ve been told I sometimes have difficultly keeping my reader aware of who is speaking and acting all the way through. You don’t have that problem at all. I knew who was talking and acting the whole time. I could also imagine each of your friends and what they looked like from your descriptions. You hit the mark on those points for me.

    I thought about suggesting using the past tense, but the more I think about it I’m not sure that would have worked as well. I’m struggling to find any other suggestions so I’ll leave it at that.

    Thanks for sharing. I hope my comments were helpful.

    Regards,
    Brian


    • #4036

      James Schmidt
      Participant

      Hey Brian – Thanks for the feedback.

      You know I find the present/past tense business is a hard thing to get hold of. I fought that all through writing this. I’m still not quite sure I got it correct. That’s why it’s important to get different eyes on things. Stories always sound so much better in my head than when they arrive on the page.

      Where the dialogue was concerned – this was easier for me than usual, because it really happened and I remembered (well mostly) who was talking and when. I have a writing dialogue e-book on my Kindle – but I need to read it some more because I find dialogue very daunting.

      As I commented to Katie earlier – My friends all got a big kick out of hearing this again and remembering how much fun that trip to Memphis was. Those things always tend to happen when we are together and I wanted to get some of this stuff down for posterity.

      Thanks for reading this and for the support. I really appreciate you taking the time.

      James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


      James Lee Schmidt

  • #4144

    Mirel Abeles
    Participant

    Okay, I will confess, I am a total ignoramus when it comes to golf. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the tone and the camaraderie that you describe. I loved the asides in the second paragraph, and how that’s the way you’ll be till you’re all in the ground. Your writing really comes alive. And I think the present tense works really well with this piece.

    But I did catch a few technicalities:
    “Iโ€™m not sure why I do though. ” I found the ‘I do’ to be awkward in this sentence. I know what you meant, but I think the I do is unnecessary here.

    You’ve got a double negative in “and that none of us should not forget it. ” Drop the second not.

    Also, you should check your quotes: you’re missing a few capitals in the dialog.

    Other than that, good job.

    • #4166

      James Schmidt
      Participant

      Mirel – Thank you for taking the time to read The Ten Second Rule. When writing this story there were two aspects that I struggled with quite a bit. Whether to tell the story from a past or present tense perspective, and secondly to try and keep the dialogue of five separate people distinctive enough without having the story decay into indiscernible noise. Honestly this story will probably always sound better told out loud then it does written down.

      I don’t know if you read my recent post in the Cantina about my efforts to work with a professional editor. The experience has been enlightening to say the least. I am finding that I have a way to go yet with sharpening my writing style.

      You are correct when you site the areas where I probably ran off the keyboard a bit ( I have a tendency to do that.) It does read better “I’m not sure why though.”

      The second example sounded way better in my head then it came out in print. Perhaps something like “He will not allow any of us to forget that he is playing at a disadvantage.” That does read more smoothly.

      I personally am the type of writer where often I require different eyes to read over what I have written. Too many times I will read and re-read something and yet fail to disconnect myself enough to hear how it might sound to other readers.

      Again I really appreciate the help and advice. I really enjoy the interactions and the insights, so thank you.

      James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


      James Lee Schmidt

  • #4160

    Amanda Pattison
    Participant

    James,
    I loved reading this story. Though I am not much of a golfer AT ALL, I can still relate to this piece and the competitive spirit behind it. I can also relate to what it feels like to shank a ball and long for a redo. The 10 second rule is definitely a fitting punishment. Great Story. I liked the way you described each of the characters and their individual characteristics. I could picture each one as they stepped up to the tee. Also, the flow of the story is well done and has a good progression to the last golfer…Waugh, and his sprint to the finish.

    The only real critique I have is in the first two paragraphs. There is something that didn’t flow for me exactly. Maybe read it out loud and see, one of the sentences was, “No, I feel only the intense pressure” I wasn’t sure about for some reason. And the other sentence that made me pause a second was in the second paragraph “walked up the tee”, rather than “walked up to the tee”. But honestly those are minor if not irrelevant things. I thought this piece was fun and really enjoyed your writing. Thanks for sharing!

    • #4167

      James Schmidt
      Participant

      Amanda thank you for taking the time to read my story. There isn’t a golfer alive who hasn’t hit that shot. Yet almost none that I know of that would choose to invoke the 10 second rule. A mulligan is not fitting serves no punishment and I myself would rather take the terrible shot, play it and move on, than try to chase after it with the hope of a redo. Plus I’d probably pull, strain, or injure something in the attempt.

      All of my friends are Very unique individuals. If I am every lucky enough to become a best selling writer whose sold thousands of books, I would never manage to properly describe them. I am glad people seem to be getting a glimpse into the type of people the are/were. You see, Waugh was killed in a plane crash outside of Chicago in 2006. Now I’m not trying to bring people down or elicit sympathy because that’s not who Waugh was at all. He was an very fun loving guy with great spirit. Waugh left us with a lifetime of great stories and great times. My friends and I really never get tired of telling Waugh stories.

      As to your point about the first paragraph or two, I agree, they do wobble. I was trying to show readers – MAN I REALLY WANT TO BEAT THESE GUYS – but it didn’t come off quite so well. I wanted people to understand the competitive nature involved when we get together and that I am not immune to it’s allure. I agree – it could have been done better. I will endeavor to to better in the future.

      Thanks again for sharing and for taking the time. I appreciate the feedback immensely.

      James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


      James Lee Schmidt

  • #4162

    Dawn Andrews
    Participant

    Hi James,

    This is a very fun read. I like the title. I really appreciate the way you acknowledge the competition that exists even between close friends. I really like the way you portrayed each of the friends, and I would have liked to get to know each of them a bit better. I agree with the readers’ comments about showing more of the action. When the friend is encouraging himself to swing through, you could use dialogue since you heard it. Just a few touches would make it an even stronger piece.

    • #4168

      James Schmidt
      Participant

      Thanks Amanda for the positive feedback and insights. As I told Dawn in my reply to her, my friends are all a different breed of individual. Most of them I have known longer than I have known my sisters – and honestly I like them better than I like my sisters (kidding, sort of). Blumberg is the instigator, Laughlin is the smart one, Dominic is the protector, and Waugh was the fun one. I don’t know how many times I got talked into doing things I would never consider doing by Waugh. He was so relentless in his efforts to get us to go along with one scheme or another that after a while I’d find myself saying “Ok, Ok, I’ll go. Just shut up already,” knowing that at some point bail may have to be posted (kidding, sort of).

      You’re right about Waugh’s little golf mantra. I should have used dialogue. I completely missed that. About the action thing, you know the saying “a picture is worth a thousand words?” Well I could have probably written over a thousand just to describe what took place in only 15 or 20 seconds (Let’s face it, there is no way Waugh ran that in a clean ten seconds). However I agree adding a bit more description of the run wouldn’t have really taken much more extra effort.

      I will work on bringing you right into the action in future stories. Thanks again for taking the time. I really appreciate the insights and feedback.

      James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


      James Lee Schmidt

  • #3906

    LoriMarie
    Participant

    Great Story! I agree with what you wrote in your intro about meaningful moments happening in small amounts of time. Some of my favourite stories are by Alice Munro, the queen of little moments. This was very well done. Each swing was dramatic with tension. Because of the little details you included, the slowing down of the ten second count, the $5.00 handout, I got a real feel of the group of friends who know and love each-other. Waughs punchline was the perfect ending. The only thing I might suggest is in the opening paragraph, instead of telling us you felt pressure, show us you feeling pressure.

  • #3909

    James Schmidt
    Participant

    LoriMarie – Thanks so very much for taking the time to read this story.

    This first section of the Story Cartel Course is about sharing and I wanted to share something personal that I hoped people might be able to identify with in one way or another. I enjoyed writing this a great deal because I laughed all the way through it. I am glad you get a sense of what my friends are like. That was exactly what I was hoping for when I posted this.

    It is INCREDIBLE that you just happen to bring up Alice Munro. I am currently reading an book entitled “The Art of the Short Story” by Dana Gioia and R.S. Gwynn, and Alice Munro is included in it. They talk about how she is very skilled at “embedding” rather than “telling” a short story, how she is a very conscientious when editing a story and how she will often re-write the same story over with a different variation. She sounds like the perfect writer to learn from and now after you have referenced her – I am definitely going to explore her work with greater interest. Thanks for that.

    I also want to thank you for the suggestion of the opening. I think you have something there – and letting people “feel” what I was feeling at that moment should help the reader connect quicker from the outset.

    Again I appreciate you taking the time and for your feedback.

    James Schmidt (J.L.S.)


    James Lee Schmidt

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